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Jul 18 2018 Victor J. D'Angelo 1:50 PM

I had family in from out of town and had to miss the event. Looks like it was a great educational day. With only 4 or 5 years before I retire, I’m looking to get more involved in volunteering in historical preservation activities. Please pass along any similar events or any other historical preservation organizations in Nassau county in need of a volunteer.
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Howard Kroplick

Victor, thanks you are now a proud member of the Long Island Motor Parkway preservation Society which entitles you to all the preservation efforts. Welcome!!

From Update #1: Seven Long Island Motor Parkway Preservation Members Help to Preserve a Town Landmark

Jul 18 2018 S. Berliner, III 12:05 AM

Camp Mills?  NO.  Camp Mills was east of Clinton and south of the LIRR Central Branch tracks; see <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Camp_mills_new_york.jpg>.  There’s a monument to the Rainbow Division (the 42nd) at St James Street and Rainbow Place (the triangle at Clinton) across from the site of Camp Mills.  I asked about the same area, above.  Sam, III
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Howard Kroplick

Garden City Village Historian Bill Bellmer has confirmed that the remnants of the Camp Mill Hospital Complex can be seen in the middle of both the 1926 and 1931 aerials. More documentation to follow.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 17 2018 Art Kleiner 10:51 PM

sam - would you happen to remember who you worked for in the Denton Building?

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 17 2018 Howard Kroplick 10:46 PM

1926 aerial of the Mineola Fair and Clinton Road Motor Parkway Bridge added above.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 17 2018 Nicholas Galante 9:01 PM

I have one of the original tickets. It is not dated. It is No. 7114
Would this be worth something to a collector?
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Howard Kroplick

Nicholas, the toll tickets usually go for $50 to $100. Please send a jpeg to me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and I will post it.

From Vanderbilia: The Long Island Motor Parkway Toll Ticket

Jul 17 2018 S. Berliner, III 12:32 PM

Art - personal favor, please.  Can you put a street number on the Denton Building?  Ca. 1956, I worked in what I then knew as the Denton Building, at the south-east corner of Hilton Avenue and the tracks (between 6th and 7th Streets).  Perhaps I misremember; there’s no trace of any such there, now.  I also worked in the basement of George Dade’s building on the north side of OCR immediately east of the LIMP RoW and in the Oxford-Pendaflex (ex-Curtiss) building at Clinton between Stewart and Commercial and lived many years in the ca. 1928 Mott section of Mineola (Marcellus, between Jericho and Hillside).  So, this picture is quite a kick for me!  By the way, the old Garden City Hotel is just off screen at the center left and certainly would qualify for a bonus if it were visible.  Darn!  What are the grouped rectangles two-three blocks north of Osborne and what’s in that big field just to the east?  Sam, III

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 17 2018 Michael LaBarbera 9:06 AM

Howard, would it be a possibility to expand the picture where NYU Winthrop Hospital is located ? It would be really cool to see it’s buildings there at the time (which btw in the lobby has the names of many of the LIMP benefactors carved onto 2 huge marble stones), and possibly do a focus story on the hospital’s history and its connection to the cup races.  Thanks, Mike
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Howard Kroplick

Mike, close-up has been added above.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 16 2018 Frank Mendyk 8:36 PM

The photo was taken over Garden City and Mineola facing northwest
Major roads - Clinton Rd, Old Country Rd, Glen Cove Rd, Jericho Turnpike, Westbury Rd, Roslyn Rd, Washington Ave, Franklin Ave, Mineola Blvd, and LIMP

LIRR Mainline, LIRR Oyster Bay branch, Mineola spur to Garden City
LIMP Bridges- Mayan ruins, Old Country Rd, and LIRR mainline.

The ovals is the Mineola Fairgrounds which is now the Nassau County Court Complex
The buildings in the lower right hand side is part of Roosevelt Field off of Clinton Rd
I would date the photo to be around 1938/39 due to comparing it with the 1942 photo.
It looks like Krugs corner and Hotel is still there and also the building across the other side of Willis Ave, 136 Jericho Turnpike

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 16 2018 Dick Gorman 10:38 AM

Mystery Foto #28… I am going to take a stab at it because my research had poor results. The series of ovals on the left section of the aerial could be Deer Park Speedway (Dix Hills Racetrack) long ago closed and replaced by a community called Baldwin Estates. That’s all I’ve got this time.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 16 2018 ErnieM 8:13 AM

Identify the aerial’s location and orientation of the photographer.
Generally north west over Carl Place towards Mineola.

Identify the major roads and a railroad.
At the bottom we see Clinton Rd, then the LIMP. Running across is Old Country Road. The LIRR runs parallel to OCR; the Mineola station is just visible along with the Oyster Bay branch and the branch line to Hempstead.

Identify the bridges of the Long Island Motor Parkway.
I only see the bridge over OCR middle right side

These are all the answers I have.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 16 2018 Art Kleiner 6:34 AM

Additional info - The Queens-Nassau Agricultural Society sold the site where the Nassau County Courthouse currently is to Nassau County in 1938.  As part of the agreement, Nassau County was to take over all of the grounds as a civic center and after the 1952 fair, the County used it for the rest of the buildings currently there today.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 15 2018 Tim Ivers 10:07 PM

Looking northwest over Mineola.
Old Country Road and LIRR Central branch diagonally upper left-lower right
Oval in center is Mineola Fairgrounds racetrack.
Nassau County Courthouse on Franklin Avenue
Police headquarters to the left of the courthouse.
Approximate year 1930 based on the look of the police building.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 15 2018 Mike West 6:58 PM

Howard The Grant very much exists today and has been in dry storage for decades not far from my home. Ill see if I can find a recent picture of the car and post it. Mike

From The 1897 Grant-The Oldest Automobile on Long Island

Jul 15 2018 Steve Lucas 5:13 PM

The photographer is over East Garden City looking west toward Mineola. Along with the LIMP, we can see Roslyn Road, Mineola Blvd, Franklin Ave, Old Country Road, Clinton Road, and Glen Cove Road. The two LIMP bridges are over the LIRR Mainline and under Old Country Road, along with the “Mayan Ruins” abutments. The series of ovals are various race tracks at the old Mineola Fairgrounds which is the current site of the Nassau County Court Complex. The buildings in the lower right are hangars, etc. at Roosevelt Field. Since the first “new” courthouse on the fairgrounds property opened in 1940 and there is no evidence of any construction for this building, I think the photo dates to around 1936. The building associated with the 1904 V. C. Race is probably the “old” Nassau County Courthouse in which Supreme Court Justice (and famous Patchogue resident) Wilmot M. Smith made the decision on 10/7/1904 to allow the race to take place the next day.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 15 2018 Steven Swirsky 1:53 PM

Long Island Rail Road mineola Station is visible.  Junctions to Hempstead Branch and Oyster Bay branch visible along with large substation where Hempstead branch drops off heading south.  This is before Hempstead line was cut back to Country Life Press.
Photographer is facing wet-northwest

I think the ovals are on site of the Bloomingdale Saks Fifth Avenue location in Garden City. Race track for autos. Building to west side of ovals was there in conjunction with stands in 1904.  All related to County Fair Groinds in Mineola

LIMP passes over the LIRR and under Old Country Road.

Road to the north Edge of the ovals is Old Country Road

Lower right structures are part of Mitchell Field.

My time estimates is 1925-30 based on railroad, level of development and Mitchell Field

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 15 2018 Howard Kroplick 12:23 PM

Alan Sadwin

Howard,

I assume there is no hallmark but this may help.

Will try to look more later


http://www.silvercollection.it/USASILWATSON.html

Watson Company: history, marks and flatware patterns
The origin of the firm traces back to 1874 when was formed in Attleboro, MA, the Cobb, Gould & Co. The founders were Clarence L. Watson, Fred Newell, Charles Cobb, Samuel Gould and W.A. Battey.
The firm produced a line of jewelry goods, mainly gold plated.
Between 1875 and 1880 Battey, Cobb and Gould withdrew from the partnership and Watson and Newell, the only ones left, formed a new firm operating under the name Watson & Newell (1880-1886).
In 1887 Joseph R. Ripley joined to the business and the firm changed its name to Watson, Newell & Co. In 1891 also Edward L. Gowern entered the partnership. The business continued with success and, needing larger quarters, in 1894 the old Mechanics Mill property was bought opening the new factory in 1896.
The name changed to Watson & Newell Co, while Mechanics Sterling Company was the name of the subsidiary flatware branch. In 1899 the firm obtained its first flatware patent (Clarence L. Watson) and began a wide production of flatware and souvenir spoons.
Failing health forced Fred Newell to retire from the active participation to the firm shortly after the turn of the century. He remained as a non-active partner until his death (1910).
In 1904 the sleeve and collar buttons division became a separate operating unit with the name of Standard Button Company under the direction of Ripley and Gowen.
In this period the firm produced hundreds of sterling souvenir spoons depicting a variety of subjects.
Beginning about 1900, Watson produced a line of sterling hollow-ware for Wilcox & Wagoner of New York using the “sword and laurel wreath” mark. Wilcox & Wagoner closed down c.1905 and Watson continued producing with this mark until 1929.
In 1920 “The Watson Co” was incorporated taking in charge all the silver operations. Many new flatware patterns continued to be introduced on a regular basis.
At the death of Clarence L. Watson (1930) the management of the firm was assumed by his son-in-law Grover Richards.
In 1955 the business was sold to R. Wallace & Sons.
The dies of Watson souvenir spoons (as many as 3000), sold by Wallace, in the 1970s were in unused possession of The Inman Co Inc. of Attleboro, MA.

CHRONOLOGY
Cobb, Gould & Co 1874 - 1880
Watson & Newell 1880 - 1886
Watson, Newell & Co 1887 - 1895
Watson & Newell Co 1895 - 1920
Watson Company 1920 - 1955
acquired by R. Wallace & Sons 1955

From Vanderbilia: The Old 16 Locomobile Spoon

Jul 15 2018 Walt Gosden 10:48 AM

Does anyone know the address of the 8 story showroom and shops of the Peerless Company that is mentioned? There were several Automobile Rowss in New York City, both early and late in the first half of the 20th century. I am planning a walking tour to view former automobile connected buildings that still exist that still mostly resemble what they looked like when connected to the automo0bile this October. Richard Lentinello of Hemmings Classic Car and I will lead the tour.

From Vanderbilia: The Old 16 Locomobile Spoon

Jul 15 2018 Mark Lanese 10:14 AM

The picture was taken over Roosevelt Airfield looking west.
LIRR Ronkonkama and Oyster Bay lines. Old Country Road, Mineola Blvd, Willis Ave, Roslyn Road, ect.
LIMP bridges - over LIRR, under Old Country Rd and over farmway in Garden City.
Mineola Fairgrounds with harness racing ovals, now Nassau County Court complex.
Airplane hangers for Roosevelt Field.
Picture was taken at the end of 1920’s early ‘30’s judging by the start of sub divisions.

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 15 2018 S. Berliner, III 9:29 AM

No time for research but can’t resist - wild guess/first stab:  over Roosevelt Field, looking northwest,  LIMP diagonally across lower center right.  LIRR Main LIne upper left to lower right, with Old Country Road immediately to its south (lower left).  Clinton Road at lower right, with RF hangars.  Ovals are old Mineola Fairgrounds; now Nassau County courts complex.  OCR and LIRR bridges.  Very early aerial - Garden City not yet built up.  GC Hotel?  Gotta run.  Sam, III

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

Jul 15 2018 George Philippides 1:11 AM

Aerial photo over Garden City,at edge of Roosevelt field, facing west.
Roads- Motor Parkway running north from Clinton Ave up past OLd Country road, between (between what would later become Russel Rd and Pell Terrace)
Clinton Avenue bottom right, intersecting with Old Country Road in right corner of picture
Bridges- Bridge over LIRR and Old Country Highway bridge
The Ovals were part of the Mineola Fairgrounds- now the Nassau County Court complex on Washington ST in Garden City
Buildings in bottom right were the hangars of Roosevelt Field
Date: I would guess 1930s given the hangars and lack of development in east GArden City

From Update #2: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: A 1931 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Garden City and Mineola

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